ECHO and SRT subtitle ?

[Plansberg]

This website is very active,
Thanks to all for your help

is it possible to get external SRT subtitle on Echo ?

On WMC on PC I get them with Local Subtitles for WMP :
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wmpsub/

But on ECHO I don't find the way to get them.

Thank you to all.
Pascal

[Sammy2]

What is the file? I basically have my subs in the mkv but getting them to show on the echo or any other extender AFAIK is a different thing all together.

[Plansberg]

I use many different subtite format SRT like
Film.mkv
Film.French.Srt
Film.English.srt
I m french my wife english so....
there is any way to play them in ECHO ?????? !!!!!!
On PC and many mediaplayer is easy !
On ECHO for WMC ?????
Thank you
Pascal

[Sammy2]

Currently you would need to burn them in as hard subs.

[Plansberg]

I can't believe there is no way to play externel sub title in this streamer !

Any streamer on the market play them !!!!!!!!

[Sammy2]

I can't believe there is no way to play externel sub title in this streamer !

Any streamer on the market play them !!!!!!!!

It is not a streamer.. It is an extender. This is a M$ thing.

[foxwood]

I don't have an Echo, so I can't test this, but the Linksys Extenders are also DLNA renderers, so you can use "Play To" to stream a video directly from a PC to the Extender (the Extender doesn't have to be paired to the PC).

If you have appropriate DLNA server software, you may be able to get subtitles to the Extender, but I think the software will have to transcode the video - I don't think DLNA has any intrinsic support for subtitles.

The bottom line is that it's not that the Echo doesn't support subtitles, it's that their isn't any protocol support for getting the subtitle data to the extender.

[foxwood]

I can't believe there is no way to play externel sub title in this streamer !

Any streamer on the market play them !!!!!!!!

The "streamers" read the .SRT file off the file system directly - either USB connected, or from a network share. Extenders don't access the file system, they can only play what is sent to them.

[jerryt]

Does the Xbox support subtitles?

[grinchy]

Xbox does not play subtitles via WMC, at least.

[Plansberg]

So that's mean it's impossible to play SRT ?

Pascal

[foxwood]

So that's mean it's impossible to play SRT ?

It's not "impossible" - it's just that nobody has written software to do it.

Extenders can display closed caption "subtitles" in recorded TV files. If someone was motivated enough, it's technically possible to create a player that would convert the data in MKV files and their associated SRT files into a WTV file containing closed captions, but nobody has done that yet, and that's probably the only way that you'll get "soft" subtitles on an Extender.

(I'm pretty sure that the option of converting SRT files into "closed caption" data in a WTV file has been explored, but without much success - the guts of WTV haven't been well documented, and there isn't a vast army of skilled programmers working on this sort of problem).

[Plansberg]

I understand.
If you download you will realise srt subtitle are very comun
There is millions of them on market !

[Sammy2]

You can use HandBrake to "burn in" the subtitles to the mkv.

I hope that the android solution coming forward from ceton for the echo will solve this problem as it wont be using RDP to play the file but rather it will act as a streamer.

[foxwood]

I hope that the android solution coming forward from ceton for the echo will solve this problem as it wont be using RDP to play the file but rather it will act as a streamer.

"Streamers" don't play subtitles either!!!!!!

DLNA doesn't support subtitles. The boxes that play SRT files do so by accessing the files directly, either from a USB connected drive, or via a network fileshare. This isn't "streaming" by any conventional use of that term!

[Plansberg]

Until now I use an Xtreamer and a NAS
I can garanti you that he read any kind of subtitle external and internal !
Pascal

[foxwood]

There is millions of them on market !

I'm not sure "market" is the word I'd use - it usually implies some sort of financial transaction.

The only market that actually matters, though, is the number of potential potential users of this hardware that need SRT support. If that segment of the market isn't big enough to support the additional cost of development for SRT support, then the number of video files with SRT subs in existence doesn't really matter.

If Ceton can deliver an "Android mode" for the Echo that will allow you to run popular Media Players for Android, which support SRTs directly from the filesystem, then you'll be all set. If that's not an option, then you'll have to either "burn" the subtitles into the video before playing, or on the fly (software already exists to do this), or come up with a new method of converting the data in SRT files into Closed Caption data. It doesn't look like there has been enough sustained interest in this approach to make it happen (though it would provide the best technical solution).

So you have 3 choices if you want SRT subtitles on an Echo:
1) Android - wait and see what Ceton delivers.
2) "Hard" subtitles, buring the subtitles into the video, either beforehand or on the fly. It works today, but it hurts video quality.
3) Find the people with the interest and the skills to convert the data in SRT files into closed caption data in a WTV container. Converting the audio/video from MKV to WTV is easy, it's just the subtitles that need further support.

[foxwood]

Until now I use an Xtreamer and a NAS
I can garanti you that he read any kind of subtitle external and internal !

And I can guarantee that your XStreamer isn't "streaming" in that case.

It's accessing a file share, and pulling the MKV and SRT files from the file share, and it's connected directly to your screen, so it's able to overlay text directly on the display.

If instead you "push" video to your XStreamer from your phone or PC (in other words "stream video to it"), you won't get any SRT support.

[Plansberg]

My concern is the result
i get any subtitle on my extremer and not with my new echo !!!!!
That's what I m looking for .
Thank you vry much for those technical detail
The result is very bad to me
I m back few years ago !

[Sammy2]

Where did this definition of streaming get set in stone?