latest Windows update. Killed WMC once again

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latest Windows update. Killed WMC once again

#1

Post by layth » Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:22 pm

Just got the latest windows update ( KB5031356 (OS Builds 19044.3570 and 19045.3570) 10/13/2023. WMC gives me the ALL CURRENT TUNERS IN USE when I try to go to live TV or recorded TV as well. So uninstalled and reinstalled WMC v13. No change. Did this happen to anybody else?

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Post by Kevin Chalet » Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:55 pm

Sounds similar to https://www.thegreenbutton.tv/viewtopic ... 97&t=14392. Have you tried with the 8.x branch? It should be more resilient to such updates as it embeds a copy of EncDec.dll, MSVidCtl.dll and CPFilters.dll instead of relying on the global version in System32.

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Post by technodevotee » Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:54 am

Assuming you are running on 64bit, I agree that a newer version of WMC would be a better option.

But I'm running V13 and had the same problem and saw that some of those DLLs had been updated so had to run the procedure to reinstate the required versions with the batch files to get it working.

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Post by Kevin Chalet » Sun Oct 15, 2023 12:35 pm

technodevotee wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:54 am Assuming you are running on 64bit, I agree that a newer version of WMC would be a better option.
Hey technodevotee, it's been a long time. Hope you're doing well.

Amusingly, abbodi1406 on MyDigitalLife just released a 8.10 installer earlier this week: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/thread ... st-1810045
It's based on the 8.8.5 version I released a few years ago but it also offers a x86 package that uses the same registration-free COM approach introduced in in 8.8.2 and 8.8.4.

Here's the changelog:
########## WMC 8.10.0 ###########

- Updated patching for ehReplay.dll / ehtray.exe / Mcx2Filter.dll / mcmde.dll
- Reviewed ACL permissions and removed hardcoded C:\ paths
- Converted Install.reg to Install.inf to remove hardcoded C:\ paths and correctly process Svchost registry
- Added missing registry for Settings Management Infrastructure (SMI)
- Improved GAC and NGEN assemblies installation and removal
- Improved .lnk shortcuts handling
- Apply conditional fixes (Microsoft SQL CE / CPFilters.dll / MSVidCtl.dll and EncDec.dll) based on OS build
- Added zh-TW mui files
- Removed Mcx2Prov.exe.XB360 and ntrights.exe
- Replaced NSudoC.exe with superuser.exe
- Improved auto elevation for the outer main scripts
- Green skinned WMC can now be installed as addon after main pack
- Created 32 bit / x86 pack

Author: abbodi1406

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   File: WMC-v8.10.0-x64.7z
  SHA-1: 2ae5c768256336bc4c205ee019ee9d69bf001502
SHA-256: f96f227f3f6c80727bb6ebfbdda4b027e7f63295332bf0a3ae33a6d1712d3715

https://www.mediafire.com/file/xqzllsj0mlf5e0n
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_qM3rDoj5EnwvVajNqhlm-9Ku7tVfE39
https://mega.nz/file/OotgkDBY#BOV1wJFapvGVJ30Q7H_UAFcfUQODRuRZAMjaNlogdj4

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   File: WMC-v8.10.0-x86.7z
  SHA-1: 21f7db59cad08ae542c7674e770467bca364eece
SHA-256: 30c61292690ceab7900777600836929a9fed0c6f8853eb97af945a456f14aef8

https://www.mediafire.com/file/21epefjz372mhio
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bg3oTmQZUD87Yp-3_oOCL1n65Tlya5xN
https://mega.nz/file/298FQCLR#a71Wf_ovSwvsPBMtRdJewsCOHXcBXRSfCcGm6rAayWw

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Post by technodevotee » Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:47 pm

Hi Pinpoint - yeah, I'm fine thanks.

I'm sure quite a few people will be delighted to see that.

As you know,V13 was only ever intended a stop gap.

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Post by prsa01 » Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:26 pm

OK, so I'm confused. This is different, even tho the numbering is similar, than the "installer" based ones from Gary, correct? These are more bat/script based? This scripting is something that could be run to attempt a fix after update issue regardless of what version you have installed and whether it is x86 or 64.

Or am I totally confused?

Thanks much

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Post by garyan2 » Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:50 pm

I agree the numbering system is confusing here. It looks like 8.10 is to install WMC on Win8? May or may not work with Win10/11?
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Post by Kevin Chalet » Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:20 pm

prsa01 wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:26 pm OK, so I'm confused. This is different, even tho the numbering is similar, than the "installer" based ones from Gary, correct? These are more bat/script based?
Yup. Gary will correct me if I'm wrong, but his installer is based on the 8.x branch and includes the workarounds I mentioned earlier, that allow using WMC on recent versions of Windows 10/11.
It also comes with a few changes (e.g WMC is installed in C:\Program Files and the default "tuners of the same type" limit is 32 instead of just 4) and it's worth mentioning that unlike the 8.x branch, you can't watch live TV via RDP (but on the other hand, you can use WMC fullscreen via RDP).
prsa01 wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:26 pm This scripting is something that could be run to attempt a fix after update issue regardless of what version you have installed and whether it is x86 or 64.
The 8.x branch is really an installer, just using good old scripts instead of an MSI-based approach like Gary's installer.
I wouldn't recommend using 8.10 at all to try to fix/update a WMC setup made with Gary's installer or the 13.x branch.
garyan2 wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:50 pm I agree the numbering system is confusing here. It looks like 8.10 is to install WMC on Win8? May or may not work with Win10/11?
No, the 8.10 package is really for Windows 10/11 (I haven't tested as my headless Windows Server 2022 TV server is still on 8.8.5, but it should also work great on Windows Server 2016/2019/2022).

The "Windows 8 without the Media Pack" installer is separate:
WMC 6.2.9200.16384 for Windows 8 with no Media Center

- based on the alternative branch pack concept
- only for Win8 (not recommended for Win10, but you can edit the scripts to remove that)

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   File: WMC_9200-x64-v2.7z
  SHA-1: a4adfe9a3e152a4372dc89cede9915a862f22279
SHA-256: a92be236091dd9fcca26bad7954f3b59a6545b2bf1a2df4bdccbb6176284e5cf

https://www.mediafire.com/file/kjvyrr73sj4otk8
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q1lhPCE859GQWynaNdPeCDhKT3pfRNdO
https://mega.nz/file/i0lgnSzZ#uUgGK4kgBZQ6D0ltUEM53vRSFPr54dBEYMTolGgpN4o

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   File: WMC_9200-x86.7z
  SHA-1: 87085eb4e1488ac395dfacdb43672ef0499f1673
SHA-256: 336db715348bf45d2b5fd2b7b30f3f477b66ad2943bd5be450d0c69bdc34762d

https://www.mediafire.com/file/curq752vhn3085t
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XLSiQHH_z7CoMpq8aNkZlQmw-gFzEFMM
https://mega.nz/file/ewsESCza#u_yQz6gzsunZHohmWvyac8pVR5DAqtiA6GKZV2t_OMo

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#9

Post by layth » Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:31 pm

Busy weekend but finally got around to installing the new pack. Worked like a charm! Thanks to all the folks who keep WMC running.

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Post by garyan2 » Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:09 am

Pinpoint wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:20 pm Yup. Gary will correct me if I'm wrong, but his installer is based on the 8.x branch and includes the workarounds I mentioned earlier, that allow using WMC on recent versions of Windows 10/11.
It also comes with a few changes (e.g WMC is installed in C:\Program Files and the default "tuners of the same type" limit is 32 instead of just 4) and it's worth mentioning that unlike the 8.x branch, you can't watch live TV via RDP (but on the other hand, you can use WMC fullscreen via RDP).
garyan2 wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:50 pm I agree the numbering system is confusing here. It looks like 8.10 is to install WMC on Win8? May or may not work with Win10/11?
No, the 8.10 package is really for Windows 10/11 (I haven't tested as my headless Windows Server 2022 TV server is still on 8.8.5, but it should also work great on Windows Server 2016/2019/2022).
Ah, I see. I was looking at the wrong post.

My 8.9.0 msi version is based on 8.8.x and progresses from 8.8.1 - 8.8.5 depending on OS version. Version 8.9.1 is the same except it is a blend of 8.8.5 and v13 for some of the files. I see 8.10 follows the same method outside of an msi, but there are newer updates. If I hadn't jumped in there with 8.9.x, it would have probably been considered 8.8.6?

So what are these updates in response to? If needed, I can incorporate into an 8.9.2.

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- Updated patching for ehReplay.dll / ehtray.exe / Mcx2Filter.dll / mcmde.dll
...
- Added missing registry for Settings Management Infrastructure (SMI)
- Gary
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Post by Kevin Chalet » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:05 am

garyan2 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:09 am If I hadn't jumped in there with 8.9.x, it would have probably been considered 8.8.6?
Haha, I guess so :mrgreen:
garyan2 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 2:09 am So what are these updates in response to? If needed, I can incorporate into an 8.9.2.

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- Updated patching for ehReplay.dll / ehtray.exe / Mcx2Filter.dll / mcmde.dll
...
- Added missing registry for Settings Management Infrastructure (SMI)
No idea for the second one, but for the first one, abbodi1406 posted more details here: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/thread ... st-1810227
it's just for the decoder licenesing check (don't matter if current SKU already allow them)
for ehReplay.dll / Mcx2Filter.dll / mcmde.dll i noticed the previous patch only bypass msmpeg2vdec-MPEG2VideoDecoder, but not msmpeg2adec-DolbyDigitalDecoder

for ehtray.exe, previous patch bypass IsMCEAllowedOnThisMachine result, i update it to even suppress IsMCEAllowedOnThisMachine check

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Post by technodevotee » Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:30 am

The version numbering is very confusing isn't it - especially for newcomers.

I'm still not sure how it was that 8.X.X was being developed long after V12 was abandoned. I can only assume it was so that the developer(s) wasn't/weren't seen to be treading on people's toes.

I tussled with the numbering when I created my version and settled on V13 so that it was obvious that it was built with the same files as 12 rather than the ones in later versions of 8.X.X.

Still don't know if that was the right decision.

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#13

Post by technodevotee » Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:36 pm

Has anyone had a chance to try out the 8.10 installer yet?

I don't have a PC that I can properly try it on at the moment.

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Post by mditerli » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:52 pm

I found the problem of “ALL CURRENT TUNERS IN USE” when watching Live TV, and no recordings play (just a blue screen).
Removed V13 and installed 8.10, problem of recordings play was fixed, but the “ALL TUNERS IN USE” issue is still there, no Live TV.
I will re-try tomorrow the entire process.

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Post by mditerli » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:23 pm

Today I removed V13, reboot, installed 8.10, reboot, problem fixed. It currently works... until the next W10 Update!

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Post by technodevotee » Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:09 pm

It should be possible to fix problems with V13 that are caused by Windows Updates without uninstalling by using the scripts provided in the installer folder.

Information about the scripts is provided in the included file, 'known issues.txt'.

However, V13 was only ever intended as a stop gap until a long term solution was found so, unless there is a compelling reason to use V13, it is far better to use one of the more recent versions.

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Post by prsa01 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:56 am

Please post if you've installed the Feb updates and whether they caused any wmc issues. Thanks

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Post by technodevotee » Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:28 pm

I'm running 19045.4046

February 13, 2024—KB5034763 (OS Builds 19044.4046 and 19045.4046) installed 2 days ago and didn't cause any issues with V13

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Post by prsa01 » Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:11 pm

technodevotee wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:28 pm I'm running 19045.4046

February 13, 2024—KB5034763 (OS Builds 19044.4046 and 19045.4046) installed 2 days ago and didn't cause any issues with V13
Thanks! Much appreciated 😊👍

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Post by prsa01 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:34 pm

Anyone updated thru April without issues? Sorry to waste the bandwidth on this.

Thanks much

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