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epg123 & Remote Potato

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:01 pm
by dhwinner
First and foremost. Thank you for creating this solution to the guide problems and continuing support for WMC.

Problem: I still use Remote Potato to access WMC remotely. Primarily to set up recordings I forget to do at home. Having said this, logging into Remote Potato via IE, I get all of the Guide Data, Logo's and Program Data. Great! Not so great, when I set something up to record, I get a positive dialog box saying recording is set, but nothing actually records.

Second part of the problem which I believe is linked, is that opening up Remote Potato via iOS, none of the guide data populates.

I'm not sure which end has the problem or where it can be fixed. I don't see any support portals for Remote Potato anymore, so I thought I would start here.

Anyone or even Garyan2 would be able to comment or even be able to find a fix?

Re: epg123 & Remote Potato

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:49 pm
by IT Troll
I used to use Remote Potato but switched to Ceton's My Media Center before I switched to EPG123.

Remote Potato is dead, the developer even locked the user forum. The iOS app has been removed from the store and doesn’t run on iOS 11 (32-bit). I wouldn’t waste time trying to troubleshoot it.

MMC on the other hand works great with EPG123 and on iOS 11. However, it is also no longer being developed or actively supported.

Re: epg123 & Remote Potato

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:10 am
by dhwinner
Thanks for your reply. I figured as much about Remote Potato. Now I also have MMC (Haven't used it in ages) and use Ceton products. I will try it out and report back. But I always thought MMC was only useful while in your home network, not remote. That's why I haven't used it in a while, am I wrong on that?

Re: epg123 & Remote Potato

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:23 am
by garyan2
dhwinner wrote:Thanks for your reply. I figured as much about Remote Potato. Now I also have MMC (Haven't used it in ages) and use Ceton products. I will try it out and report back. But I always thought MMC was only useful while in your home network, not remote. That's why I haven't used it in a while, am I wrong on that?
MMC works fine remotely, I use it myself. You just need to direct the port on your router to the media center. Sorry, never had any experience with Remote Potato.

Re: epg123 & Remote Potato

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:31 am
by dhwinner
Hi Gary,

Thanks for chiming in. You are right, I just finished reinstalling MMC Server on my WMC system, opened the port and shazam!! I am in remotely.

Thank you for creating epg123, hope you saw that I made a donation. And I hope you continue to support WMC!!

Re: epg123 & Remote Potato

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:58 am
by Space
I know of no reason that Remote Potato should not work with EPG123 data. The one thing I can think of is that the client app/browser still has old data cached from when you were using Microsoft/TiVo data. If the app has a way to flush the cache, you can try that.

There are also some setting on the Remote Potato server that you can run to update the channel listings, etc. If you haven't done this since the EPG123 conversion it may cause issues.

I know that the Silverlight client has an option to cache the EPG (which you can turn off), but I don't know how that option affects scheduling of recordings.

I am not sure how long it has been since you moved to EPG123, but if you can't find a way to clear cached data, you can wait until after all old cached data would have expired (about 12-13 days) and see if you have the same problem then.

Re: epg123 & Remote Potato

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:20 am
by dhwinner
I will give it a try and report back. Thanks for the reply!

Re: epg123 & Remote Potato

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:38 pm
by jachin99
I just tried out remote potato, and my guide data is displayed using at least the basic HTML view with epg123. I can't speak for the enhanced view because the samsung browser I'm using doesn't have silverlight.

Re: epg123 & Remote Potato

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:59 pm
by IT Troll
IT Troll wrote:MMC on the other hand works great with EPG123 and on iOS 11. However, it is also no longer being developed or actively supported.
Just to add that MMC has also dropped off the Apple App Store now. So for iOS users (which don't have their own backups of app packages) the only option is the basic web view on Remote Potato, or a more fully featured solution like Kodi.

Re: epg123 & Remote Potato

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:19 pm
by dhwinner
I wish these other fully featured solutions like Kodi and the other MCE replacements where truly good enough. The problems is that for users like myself, there isn't a Cablecard ready solution, and there will never be! One could argue that Cablecard is also a dying beast, and they are probably right, but cable cutting alternatives are still messy and non uniform, and if you put them all together to get what you want, you will still be paying the same if not more than a cable/Satellite bundle.
Oh well, I am hopeful our future will come together in a cohesive manner.

Re: epg123 & Remote Potato

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:22 pm
by Alan G
dhwinner wrote:I wish these other fully featured solutions like Kodi and the other MCE replacements where truly good enough. The problems is that for users like myself, there isn't a Cablecard ready solution, and there will never be! One could argue that Cablecard is also a dying beast, and they are probably right, but cable cutting alternatives are still messy and non uniform, and if you put them all together to get what you want, you will still be paying the same if not more than a cable/Satellite bundle.
Oh well, I am hopeful our future will come together in a cohesive manner.
It may be that the cable cutters win the day. I'm still a user since I watch a lot of European soccer on cable channels and both my wife and I like HBO and Showtimes as well as the dedicated movie channels. It's nice to have the DVR option as well. It would be hard to cut the cable entirely given our preferences. Smart TVs do allow one to bypass a HTPC these days for a lot of applications.

I'm staying on Win7 with my set up with the hopes that something comes along by 2020 to replace WMC and still have a Cablecard solution. Obviously it would be best if MSFT release WMC code into the public domain and allow a not for profit organization pick it up and maintain it. Mozilla does a good job with Firefox and their new release v. 57 is blazingly fast.

Re: epg123 & Remote Potato

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:50 pm
by dhwinner
Nice to hear that someone else is a believer!! I also forgot to mention for the non copy protected content, the comskip is something I'm not willing to give up ;)