Attempts at Manual Guide Implementation

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Attempts at Manual Guide Implementation

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Post by STC » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:23 am

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Post by OneAn9ryN00b » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:34 am

STC wrote:So now the fun begins....

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/librar ... 76338.aspx
Maybe I'm not reading this right....but does this mean someone could create a program to do guide data??

Also has this guide really been around since July of 2009 and were just noticing it?

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Post by STC » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:35 am

I am futzing with it as we speak trying to load new mxf data pulled from Schedules Direct (Zap2it) and poke it into the guide DB.

edit/ using an OLD Zap2it channel lineup which is 100% correct.
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Post by glorp » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:54 am

Why not get a trial of Big Screen EPG? That's what it does. Takes the XMLTV and stuffs it into media center format.

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Post by STC » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:58 am

^ I have tried, that was my first attempt. It doesn't appear to replace or update any cable card guide data.
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Post by STC » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:02 am

I think it's because BigScreenEPG is unable to hook into what is a much more protected tuner/channel/guide setup that is CableCard.

For instance, in MC7 you get limited options tweaking lineups on CableCard, then you do other tuners.
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Post by glorp » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:10 am

It looks like it may not be lacking the functionality to do it but just that it's not so simple to get it to work immediately when there's been pre-existing schedule data. You may need a clean install to get it to work, either way perhaps.

http://bigscreenglobal.com/bgepgsupport ... V1&ID=FAQ4

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Post by STC » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:13 am

Yes, unfortunately there lies a catch22. A clean install requires a fresh setup which pulls lineup from Rovi and starts the ball rolling incorrectly...for me at least.

Here's where I am right now and it looks good at first glance:

C:\Windows\ehome>loadmxf -i bse-epgdata.mxf
Loading... 100%
C:\Windows\ehome>
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Post by STC » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:18 am

My temporary issue now is mc2xml defaults to a 7 day pull of Schedule Direct data, and I already had guide data past that.
I will need to try this again in a couple of days to see if my guide data stays 7 days ahead. Saying that after the import, the guide looks completely fine.
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Post by STC » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:19 am

These tweaks are being tried out with this in hosts:

127.0.0.1 data.tvdownload.microsoft.com
127.0.0.1 cdn.epg.tvdownload.microsoft.com
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Post by Ladislaus » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:29 am

STC wrote:... Saying that after the import, the guide looks completely fine.
I hope you took good step-by-step notes for the rest of us.

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Post by mdavej » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:34 am

I think STC's awesome guide experiments are worthy of their own thread.

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Post by Beerman » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:43 am

I wish we had an option to use Schedules Direct. I already have a 9 months left and wouldn't mind paying $20 a year for a guide that works and a guy like Robert (I think that's his name) that actually supports his program.

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Post by glorp » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:45 am

STC wrote:My temporary issue now is mc2xml defaults to a 7 day pull of Schedule Direct data, and I already had guide data past that.
I will need to try this again in a couple of days to see if my guide data stays 7 days ahead. Saying that after the import, the guide looks completely fine.
Did you try to run CLI with options for listing duration, or possibly start time and duration? (see, -d -s)
http://mc2xml.awardspace.info/

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Post by STC » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:49 am

STC wrote:My temporary issue now is mc2xml defaults to a 7 day pull of Schedule Direct data, and I already had guide data past that.
This could be due to a 7 day trial with Schedule Direct(?)
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Post by glorp » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:52 am

Hmm. So you mean even if you do "mc2xml -d 336" you only get 7 days worth?

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Post by STC » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:55 am

glorp wrote:
STC wrote:My temporary issue now is mc2xml defaults to a 7 day pull of Schedule Direct data, and I already had guide data past that.
I will need to try this again in a couple of days to see if my guide data stays 7 days ahead. Saying that after the import, the guide looks completely fine.
Did you try to run CLI with options for listing duration, or possibly start time and duration? (see, -d -s)
http://mc2xml.awardspace.info/

Bingo!

Working on it.. thank you.
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Post by STC » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:59 am

C:\>mc2xml -d 336
Loading ..... : mc2xml (c) <mc2xml@gmail.com> (v1.3)

Start time .. : 2015-07-15T01:00:01Z UTC
End time .... : 2015-07-29T01:00:01Z UTC

Completed ... : 98320259 bytes in 54s, 463 channels, 127702 programs scheduled.
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Post by glorp » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:07 am

So could Big Screen EPG load that schedule data correctly when you set MS schedules domains to localhost during set up or were you using the MS LoadXMF? Sorry I was a little unclear which steps you were trying here.

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Post by STC » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:10 am

Nope. Said it worked, it didn't. Trying manually now.

I'm using BSEPG to create the xmf from mc2xml, then importing manually.
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