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Re: SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME - Owner's Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:56 pm
by KJohnson
Plugging it straight into the router did the trick.
Can see it now with the setup software and can get to its webpage, interestingly it was assigned 192.168.0.35. I wonder if I move it back to the network switch at the home entertainment system if it will keep it's IP address and if it's still accessible? Guess we'll see what it does!?!?
Prime as DLNA server coming soon...
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:24 pm
by TeddyR
Re: Prime as DLNA server coming soon...
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:42 pm
by KScott
Re: Prime as DLNA server coming soon...
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:27 pm
by ehanson555
What kind of possibilities does this open up? Will applications other than WMC be able to record copy protected content?
Re: SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME - Owner's Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:49 pm
by slowbiscuit
Wow, this is freaking awesome. Hopefully Ceton will get on board too, then we won't have to rely on the dubious future of WMC for anything.
Re: Prime as DLNA server coming soon...
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:05 pm
by richard1980
ehanson555 wrote:
What kind of possibilities does this open up? Will applications other than WMC be able to record copy protected content?
From
http://www.dtcp.com/faq.aspx#faq7:
A device enabled with DTCP determines whether it is connected to other devices that implement the DTCP protection technology. Content encoded for DTCP protection is encrypted and securely transmitted only to recording and display devices that implement DTCP. The content carries information indicating whether and to what extent the content may be copied.
Re: Prime as DLNA server coming soon...
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:20 pm
by staknhalo
richard1980 wrote:ehanson555 wrote:
What kind of possibilities does this open up? Will applications other than WMC be able to record copy protected content?
From
http://www.dtcp.com/faq.aspx#faq7:
A device enabled with DTCP determines whether it is connected to other devices that implement the DTCP protection technology. Content encoded for DTCP protection is encrypted and securely transmitted only to recording and display devices that implement DTCP. The content carries information indicating whether and to what extent the content may be copied.
So yes, but you can have recording and viewing or viewing only devices is what I gather. Just gotta be sure what you buy.
Re: SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME - Owner's Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:22 pm
by barnabas1969
Imagine that... Live TV on a PS3. Another reason not to buy an XBox.
EDIT: Wow, I just had a thought. You can put up to a 750GB HDD in the PS3. Imagine if Sony enables recording. It's not quite the same whole-house solution as Media Center, but still pretty cool. Of course, if they allowed protected media sharing between PS3's (basically making each PS3 an extender for every other PS3 in the house), you could do some pretty cool stuff.
Re: SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME - Owner's Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:36 pm
by staknhalo
barnabas1969 wrote:Imagine that... Live TV on a PS3. Another reason not to buy an XBox.
EDIT: Wow, I just had a thought. You can put up to a 750GB HDD in the PS3. Imagine if Sony enables recording. It's not quite the same whole-house solution as Media Center, but still pretty cool. Of course, if they allowed protected media sharing between PS3's (basically making each PS3 an extender for every other PS3 in the house), you could do some pretty cool stuff.
Plus, it is the best (supported) Blu Ray player on the market. And no subscription requirement. I hate the interface though. My friend uses his as his digital media hub.
Re: Prime as DLNA server coming soon...
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:11 am
by richard1980
staknhalo wrote:So yes, but you can have recording and viewing or viewing only devices is what I gather. Just gotta be sure what you buy.
If you are saying the DTCP specification separates devices into those two categories, that is incorrect. There are only two kinds of DTCP devices...source devices (devices that can send content) and sink devices (devices that can receive content). (And a single device can be both a source and a sink device). What a sink device can do with the content it receives is up to the manufacturer. Obviously it will have to comply with the copy protection policy of the content, but the capability to record only depends on whether or not the manufacturer designed the device to make recordings or to just present content.
Re: SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME - Owner's Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:13 am
by foxwood
barnabas1969 wrote:Imagine that... Live TV on a PS3. Another reason not to buy an XBox.
EDIT: Wow, I just had a thought. You can put up to a 750GB HDD in the PS3. Imagine if Sony enables recording. It's not quite the same whole-house solution as Media Center, but still pretty cool. Of course, if they allowed protected media sharing between PS3's (basically making each PS3 an extender for every other PS3 in the house), you could do some pretty cool stuff.
I think Sony would have to get over a really bad case of "Not Invented Here" syndrome before it would even consider embarking on a strategy that relied on someone elses hardware to be successful.
Re: Prime as DLNA server coming soon...
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:19 am
by staknhalo
richard1980 wrote:depends on whether or not the manufacturer designed the device to make recordings or to just present content.
That's what I meant.
Re: SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME - Owner's Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:49 pm
by slowbiscuit
foxwood wrote:barnabas1969 wrote:Imagine that... Live TV on a PS3. Another reason not to buy an XBox.
EDIT: Wow, I just had a thought. You can put up to a 750GB HDD in the PS3. Imagine if Sony enables recording. It's not quite the same whole-house solution as Media Center, but still pretty cool. Of course, if they allowed protected media sharing between PS3's (basically making each PS3 an extender for every other PS3 in the house), you could do some pretty cool stuff.
I think Sony would have to get over a really bad case of "Not Invented Here" syndrome before it would even consider embarking on a strategy that relied on someone elses hardware to be successful.
Exactly. The guess here is that the PS3 is a start but will not be the killer appliance for this tech - someone will come along and get XBMC or something else on Linux working for DTCP and then we're off to the races. I hope, that is, because we really need alternatives other than Tivo and WMC.
EDIT: I just looked at the DTCP adopter and impl docs at
www.dtcp.com and it's not cheap or easy for a small company to do this. Might be why the PS3 is the only name device out there supporting DTCP-IP via DLNA now.
Re: SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME - Owner's Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:27 pm
by barnabas1969
I agree with you slowbiscuit. I don't have high hopes that the PS3 will support recording, but it IS possible. Would be interesting if someone managed to hack the PS3 to make it record though. If that can be done, who cares about being able to play online games!
But... this is a good start. If other device manufacturers come up with a good mix of live/recorded TV and online apps, we might have a winner.
Re: SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME - Owner's Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:03 pm
by UCBearcat
Slightly different topic.... referencing a question posted in this thread:
http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/vie ... qam#p33686
The question was answered, but I want to be sure before I go down this road (and spend the money).
Scenario - Right now there is one TV in the home with a coax cable hooked straight into the back of the TV. This TV gets the most basic TWC tier (something like 30 channels) with no cable box.
Can the HDHR Prime w/o a CC installed be used for "basic" cable much like the dual tuner HDHR?
The way I see it... if this works, they get 3 tuners instead of 2... and they're future-proof if they ever want to step up to a higher tier and rent a CC from timewarner. But for right now, the HDHRPrime would only tune the lowest 30 channels (ClearQAM, I assume).
Is this do-able? I want to be sure sure the HDHRPrime would work without a CC inserted.
Re: SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME - Owner's Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:54 pm
by foxwood
UCBearcat wrote:Can the HDHR Prime w/o a CC installed be used for "basic" cable much like the dual tuner HDHR?
According to the
MythTV Wiki, the HDHRPrime can receive ClearQAM (but not ATSC/OTA) signals, without a card installed.
Re: SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME - Owner's Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:52 pm
by UCBearcat
At long last... SiliconDust releases a new Firmware that is not BETA!!
20130117 available for download. It looks like they packed in a lot of good fixes that were in many of the Betas from the summer.
Re: SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME - Owner's Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:06 pm
by TeddyR
UCBearcat wrote:At long last... SiliconDust releases a new Firmware that is not BETA!!
20130117 available for download. It looks like they packed in a lot of good fixes that were in many of the Betas from the summer.
Yup. That got quietly released overshadowed by all the DLNA stuff..
Re: SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME - Owner's Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:17 pm
by barnabas1969
TeddyR wrote:UCBearcat wrote:At long last... SiliconDust releases a new Firmware that is not BETA!!
20130117 available for download. It looks like they packed in a lot of good fixes that were in many of the Betas from the summer.
Yup. That got quietly released overshadowed by all the DLNA stuff..
Hmmm. My HDHRP's have been rock solid since day one. I'm not sure I want to install a firmware update.
Have you ever considered that companies who release firmware updates every few days might have a problem with stability? Sure, there are those that never fix problems... but then there are those whose products just work... and there's no need to release new firmware/software every week.
Re: SiliconDust HDHomeRun PRIME - Owner's Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:49 pm
by lgspencer
barnabas1969 wrote:I would recommend Win7. There are some unattractive things about Win8... specifically the Metro interface. Nobody has detailed how to disable that and boot directly into Media Center yet. There are plenty of ways to run Media Center at startup, but the Metro interface would be a concern for me. Also, there have been reports that non-XBox extenders don't work with Win8... and that even the XBox won't play H.264 video under Win8. We'll have to wait until the final release of Win8 to see what happens with extenders.
I don't know what to tell you about getting the Prime to work with Vista. You should contact SiliconDust support for that question.
I agree with fventura03's suggestion about TunerSalad... but I don't know if it will work with Vista. I suggest ditching the ATI tuner. If you're going to pay to rent two CableCARD's, I would recommend buying a 2nd Prime instead of wasting one of the CableCARD's on a single-tuner ATI.
Barnabas, I ditched the ATI tuner and VMC and installed Windows 8 and added Media Center "feature pack". This solved all my issues, now using "5" tuners (3-HD Homerun Prime + 2-HD Homerun).
Thanks for the advice.