there are quad dvb-t tuners on the market already, the tbs 6284 for instance

Thanks. A ticket has been submitted.

What firmware are you on?

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Yes you will need a second card

Do you need an M cable card for each infinitv card in the media center?
I have a second card to install I just wasn't sure if I needed to get an additional card for it.

Well, so far so good. Was able to record 4 shows at once. I hope it stays that way. Thanks to all that helped.

Antivirus could cause the issue, however is the problem persists, I would open a support ticket with us.

OK. Sorry for any misinofrmation.. I guess it was too good to be true. I had thought it was so since both in my area and at a co-workers place (different cablecos) had the same behavior.

Can you describe your exact setup for host and guest PC? What tuners are assigned where, what arch each os is, etc?

I've reset and still get tuner not found in WMC on 8.

Edit; I reset again, and instead of running the network tuner wizard on the guest, I just went straight to live tv setup and it...

Does that amp work with switched digital video?

solved.

since I didn't run the Ceton Network Tuners setup, the Infinitv did not have Bridging enabled.

Once I enabled bridging on the infinitv, I can tune channels on the host PC

Problem #1
What Firewall/AV software are you using? Have you tried uninstalling it and see if the problem persists?

Problem #2
I would recommend you open a support ticket with us for this issue. A number of things could cause this, and I need more data to investigate

Problem #3
I would also...

Dont mean to bring up a dead thread. however, if anyone else is having this issue...check out the 29/59 issue. There is an issue on some setups where the refresh rate bounces back and forth between 29 and 59. If you google it..they will tell you how to correct it on your system.

Hi All

Just a little update, moved the Zino to an upstairs bedroom and mounted a new TV on the wall to go with it and so far no issues with the copyright warning, the previous TV was about 8 years old flat screen, is it possible that was the problem? Fingers crossed its gone now...I hope!

Loving...

I'll check my adapters tonight when I get home, but I'm pretty sure both of them are 1501.

I wish I wouldn't have waited so long to jump on the beta bandwagon though.

Right click the bridged network and delete (Control Panel / Network and Internet / Network and Sharing Center / Manage Network Connections).

Because it's the infiniTV, maybe ask Ceton if they have a preferred set of steps to unbridge and re-bridge.
Their InfiniTV app has a reset feature, but I'm...

Ok...Ceton Support works on Saturdays apparently.

Issue is resolved. The firmware updates had reset the bridging support to 'no'.

Thanks for tuning in. Thanks to Ceton and their awesome support.

Yea I must admit, that the Ceton support both times I had needed them was top notch.

There are a number of reason why I wouldn't do that. Remember there is no such thing as live tv and that would mean the buffer would be on the NAS along with other network traffic. This gets a bit messy when you have a couple of shows recording and are watching a program and maybe have an extender...

The card not being paired only prevents you from receiving high-value (CCI >0x00) content. On Comcast, I don't believe anything in the standard tier is marked with a CCI > 0x00, so this is likely a non-issue
Ok Thank you. I see what the problem is. I don't have and pay channels at this time and...

Kind what I thought but had to double check since I wasn't at home to test lol thanks!

If you are seeing 29dB of tilt, you have some sort of wiring/signal issue - I suspect if you resolve that, it will resolve your issue.

Well I installed the beta firmware and drivers (as suggested by help ticket) and that appears to have resolved my issues. Possibly a driver was corrupted? Dunno...

Our current production release only supports this on Windows 7. In our internal development releases, we have enabled this functionality in Windows 8, and expect to release it with the next public version.

7MC never needs a reboot until you get the dreaded (and rare) 'tuner not available' messages when no tuners are in use. I haven't tried kicking ehrecvr to see if that would fix the problem, but a reboot for sure does. People have reported this issue for both the HD Homerun Prime and the InfiniTV,...

:thumbup: awesomeness!

Just to report back... I have yet to see a message about no tuner being available to record a show since updating to the beta driver and firmware. This would occur every day or two, and was a minor, but persistent, annoyance. It is now resolved. SWEET!

After updating the drivers and firmware, the channel mapping downloaded successfully, and I was able to view channels normally. Thank you for your time and prompt replies!

I would recommend that you upgrade to our latest beta software and firmware release. If the issue persists beyond that, please open a support ticket with us.

I may have replied too soon (out of my initial exuberance). Due to some tedious 3D testing I'm doing with this graphics card (and failing miserably btw), I've rebooted 4-5 times today. Once - for whatever reason - the cablecard didn't register upon bootup. But every other time, it has booted up...

thanks.. I got it running. I posted a basic how to guide with MS HyperV setup

Ahhhh interesting I will ask support team to reproduce.

Is this a permanent thing? Or just a stumbling block that needs a work around?

The back of my entertainment center looks similar to that picture now .. amazing how many wires and power cords to various electronics I have back there... I just hope Hurricane Sandy does't ruin it for me early next week...

newfiend~

yeah. It's actually from live TV. I just rewinded the buffer.

I don't recall when I started to see it. But before yesterday I had the latest official firmware. Last night I updated to the latest beta's. It did it on both firmwares, hardware firmware, ect. Nothing hardware wise has changed in the...

This happened to me when I used to order the ESPN Gameplan package. The weird thing was it was when I first got my InfiniTV and I had just returned my TWC DVR. It was halfway through the college football season and I had been recording games on the cable DVR all season. The InfiniTV failed though...

I went to Comcast and picked up a new cable card just in case and I had the same issue. The tech came out and checked the signal levels and they were fine and not what was being reported by the Cetoan diagnostics (currently -47.1). I believe he had it reporting around -8 when hooked up to his...

It would be nice to not have to restart in order to remove the message. I hope MS works with you guys..

LiveTV was available Saturday morning when I tested, and still available today when I fired it up. Will be leaving it running most of the day, so will check-back if anything happens. So that's good news so far.

I was instructed to update to this beta firmware during a troubleshooting process on my own ticket with Ceton. Though they have been unable to identify the problem, the error log has always shown a problem with communicating over UPnP and Ceton has claimed it is something else installed on my...

If you are using Tuning Adapters, you may want to disable the TA service for the ATI (I believe it's called OCUR SDV). Otherwise, there's nothing special you should need to do.
Do I re enable that service once the ceton is installed or will that happen automatically once the TA is hooked up?

No...

Try using Process Monitor ( to look for any Access Denied messages during the install. If you're not familiar with how to do it, I would recommend opening a support ticket with us.

Everyone that has reported failure (including me) has it happen at the same point. The installer gets to installing...

My guess is this is a 120hz/240hz TV, and this update improved the frame interpolation algorithm

Ahh ;)

Another place to have a look, to give you a starting point to look for problems is the Ceton InfiniTV Diagnostic Tool. Click on the Devices tab, and you should have green checkmarks beside each entry. Then click on the CableCard tab, you should see green checkmarks again. If you click on the...

Well I verified that the frame rate was switching back and forth.
I checked my NVIDIA settings again and somehow they got reverted back to default. I changed them as suggested and the flickering is gone again.
Other than that everything has been working great.

I wanted to note again that the new...

I'll report back here once I get everything up and running. I'm not in an immediate rush, so I might wait for another deal on the card to pop up... just missed one at NewEgg last week for $170 :(
Well that happened much sooner than later... NewEgg's got a $20 promo going on right now. Snagged it...

Please contact Ceton support with this information and we will resolve your issue.

You will want to look in the BIOS settings and make sure the sleep mode is set to use S3 Mode or S3 Mode Only.. (options will vary from BIOS to BIOS).

I have a dedicated HTPC (Self Built) and it works perfectly. I do use MC Stanby tool here : to ensure that the PC sleeps when it needs to. If it...

I did try resetting the tuners with the HTPC and had no luck. I originally thought that would work but it never reset the tuners, not even the three previously assigned to the HTPC.

I had to put this issue on back burner because I had another issue crop up. My Cablecard seems to have lost its pairing...kept on seeing CP AUTH message. Contacted Comcast
several times to resend signal, had tech come out, he spoke with his engineering team and they said it was paired up fine but...

After getting the beta drivers, everything in the diagnostics tool would be green across the board, but WMC can no longer detect a valid tuner. I reinstalled a few times and I finally reverted everything back. Now I'm stuck with where I started :(

I just wanted to say thank you. I have had nothing but issues recently with my ceton infinitv pcie tuner not being detected and alot of other issues. What killed me was everything worked fine for me before. I literally just removed this update you recommended an hour ago and everthing is working...

I'm running a machine with both a Ceton InfiniTV4 and a SD Prime and two SD HR tuners without issue. On another machine which is just running Ceton InfiniTV (internal and USB) I used to see error messages in the Log where windows couldn't communicate with the HDHR tuners. Just installing in media...

It's not something I need to do, I just stumbled across the possibility and wondered if there was an easy way to play with it without breaking anything. (I only have 1 InfiniTV, and I don't want to jeopardize the excellent WAF it has established).

VLC has an Open Capture Device dialog that can...

You are going to love it and Media Center. Welcome aboard! Aside from a few quirks we have all grown to ignore with Media Center it s an excellent piece of software.

Changing (or removing) just an InfiniTV should not break DRM. However, the DRM calculation does give a high weight to network cards (which includes the InfiniTV), so if you change other things at the same time, you may run into difficulty.

If the LED is flashing blue, the tuner has been configured to be a DHCP client, but does not have an IP address. You need to get the PC up and press the reset network settings button in the InfiniTV Diag utility.

:)

Well after wasting most of saturday and today on this issue i decided to install original tuner back and everything is working fine. So looks like the new tuner i was sent by ceton is defective and I got 0 support from them. Granted it was a saturday but they do list saturday as working day. now to...

I did get that recently and have found it to be an improvement. I am generating the diagnostics fine just had issues on the website. They gave me an alternate way to send them in, I was just curious if its just me

i have been plagued qith a wall reading of -0.5db and all four tuners reporting almost -20db (even with all splitters and other stuff removed) , the cable company says all is fine and naturally wont touch the computer set-up. some say i shouldnt need an amp, but most all say -20db isnt good enough,...

The tuner is plugged directly into the PC and the machine doesn't have usb 3. I will open a ticket thanks.

Yes, I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place on that too. Hopefully the Echo alone will be able to play a larger selection of formats without the Q

If it'll play my movie collection without having to jack things around then I'll buy several and pitch it to anybody who will listen.

By the way, I have not had any issues in quite some time. The Firmware update may have done the trick. On the other hand, I record much less in the summer and I am also wondering if there could be contributions from variations in quality of the signal coming in from CableVision.

Well, after having a week of a perfectly functioning tuner, the issue is back as of tonight. :( What are the chances of two bad tuners in a row?

If they have cable cards, there is no reason why they wouldn't work... Its more a question of how competent their employees are.

The only caveat with that is tinker time will be limited to in between non stop recording and viewing of total drivel!
Very true. Once the wife realizes that she can record EVERYTHING, she will.

I had a similar experience when I tried to set up network tuners. My setup had been stable for quite awhile but I had to install the newest ceton drivers that included the network tuner piece. It screwed everything up. I followed the guide exactly but when it came time to set up Live TV again, I...

I know the frustration. peeved me off until last week when I uninstalled November drivers and installed Octobers drivers. There is no network sharing but you can manually set them up if need. I will post them if needed.

One more note. I have tried assigning a static IP of 192.168.200.1 to my card, and when I do Windows says that duplicate IPs are not allowed. But I do not have anything on that IP. I cannot ping that address.

It sounds like you were confused on the IP addressing. The card itself has the IP...

^^ Not necessarily true. Problems can and do get solved on this forum without creating a ticket with a manufacturer.
It really depends on the specifics to the issue at hand. Posting here (or indeed searching for your issue here or the 'other' places) is the first step I would propose.

Well it seems that is was a problem with the USB Ceton Tuner and my brand of Motherboard (EVGA Z68 SLI Micro). I will say this.. Ceton Support is AWESOME !!
I sent them my diagnostic reports and my system info and the engineering team was able to fix it. They sent me a updated firmware tonight. I...

Your hardware upgrade had nothing to do with the copy protection flags. Yes, Verizon recently notified customers that they will start using the copy-once flag on some premium channels such as HBO.

Do you mean Tuning Adapters? You should not be using a DTA with the InfiniTV. What error do you receive when trying to tune a problematic channel?

Also, just to circle back on this, all OCURs (including the InfiniTV) are one-way devices - there is no way they can see your CableCARD. Glad to hear that you're up and running!

No, I don't think you can.

Your only hope will be to create a new route for the Ceton's IP address that set the interface to use when connecting to that IP.

The command would be...

ROUTE ADD MASK 255.255.255.255

Sounds very frustrating. I have used Norton 360 with my ceton from the start and full trust settings was all that I needed.

A down and dirty solution may be a freeware program called startup delayer - I had a conflict between norton ghost and carbonite. I used this freeware to delay the start of...

I have both a PCIe and USB unit.. I notice no diffenence in performance between the two. They both just work well. I never thought I would want/need 8 tuners.. Boy was I wrong. Add a few exteneders and ya just end up needing them. Both units have been great for me.
newfiend~

So after Ceton Support working with Frontier, they managed to correctly pair my device.

Just wished that Frontier could have done this without engagement from Ceton. If Ceton didn't have fantastic support I think I would have hit a deadend with Frontier Fios TV support and just returned my card...

Ya, I keep calling it Ceton. Ive heard them say it CETON like 50 times but since I have always called it that I always say it. I type in Centoncorp.com and wonder why it doesnt work. And no I dont remember the guys name. But if they send you a cable card it shouldnt be a problem because they...

i had the same issue updating both of my pci cards. just go to network adapters, and right-click/disable the one that took the update. now relaunch the diag tool and it will update the other card also.

I actually got it to work...with little rhyme or reason. I went back and tried re-seating the card in all 4 PCI slots again and it worked this time (on the last slot). I don't know why since the last time I tried it froze on all the PCI slots whenever I tried to enable support bridging. Regardless,...

Actually, if the card is less than a year old, Ceton will honor the warrantee for the 2nd and subsequent owners... IF the owner can prove the original purchase date. So, if the seller is willing to give the buyer a copy of the original invoice, then Ceton will honor the warrantee until one year...

If you launch the Ceton Diag application, there is a drop down menu with the address of each Ceton card. On mine, one ends in 50, while the other in BC. So after I select card, I go to the one tab( i can't remember the tab name) and to launch the ceton diag webpage. After I do this twice, I have...

Thanks again!

What are you using for a video card?
Are you hooked up via HDMI to an AVR or TV? If you are using a HDMI cable, from the windows desktop open control panel then sound, select your HDMI connection and set it to 2.0 stereo test, save, and exit. Open media center, open tasks/settings, general, media...

Bridging connects two different networks together at the data link layer to allow them to communicate with each other as if on the same network segment.

There's a whole lot of overhead with bridging. Especially when the bridging is being performed by the OS and not the network card.

Give this a...

I did post to the Ceton support website as well.

Closing the loop on this issue - turns out Charter had a bad mapping for two channels. The frequencies were totally different on a cable card vs. the digital set top boxes. Luckily the 4th tech that came to my house also had a Ceton card @ home. He...

I have a 1st batch PCIe card as well. It's worked really well. I just ordered a USB version to add to my HTPC as I have no more open PCIe slots. I am hoping it will be a simple install. Does anyone have both hooked up already? And any suggestions or things I should look out for when installing it?...

I was able to fix the disappearing issue. It was in fact stuck in network bridging mode.
After I fixed that, the card still wouldn't complete the WMC setup, and it wouldn't give me the host ID and data ID numbers that I need in order to pair it to my cable card. It also kept saying InfiniTV is not...

Ah the chicken and egg thingamy.

Whenever my HTPC is not active, it goes into the normal sleep mode. When I wake it from sleep, it seems to take a very long time (2 min +/-) for the tuners to recognize the cable card signal. During this time it usually says no service available on this channel or something to that effect. But then...

Slapped a bigger 3.5 i had lying around until Seagate can get me a replacement (they are out of stock) and it is runnng smoothly for me again. If you have another HD to try, i would recommend that to test.

As it turned out, my PC was the culprit...or rather bottle neck. It was Pentium 4 Dell Dimension 4700..both OS and RAM were upgraded to spec..but CPU was choking..I was consisitenly getting 100% utoilization on CPU everytime I open Media center...

Tried Ceton setup on my laptop...everythgin worked...

I had a similar problem - when I ran through the network tuner setup the default was to a mac bridge (or something with a similar name). But, when I finally changed the selected network adapter to the network adapter on my motherboard (where ethernet was connected) the problem was fixed.

Apologies...

Good Luck.. I hope you can get it sorted out. Let me know how your getting on with this.. It's got my curiosity going..
newfiend

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I was having this issue but Ceton provided me with a beta firmware update that mostly fixed the issue.The tuner would still become unavailable and disconnect from the USB but would usually resolve itself within a minute.

I have since switched from a wireless connection to a wired connection to add...

Thanks for the reply. The 1-5 seconds isn't really an issue but i have been looking to upgrade my machine and wanted to know if this would help as it may have affected my decision on what to get.

I have google music running just fine next to my infinitv. What issue are you actually having?

I do normally set it to below normal (on mine), but was wondering if there was a better way to do it. As far as making the PC unresponsive, as long as it isn't trying to record anything then responsiveness doesn't matter. No head unit on this thing anyways, so only way to get in is hook up a...

I've attached obscene amounts (~6) of InfiniTVs to the same machine. Any combination of USB and PCIe that you would like will work fine. You will need one TA per InfiniTV though. Also make sure to upgrade to the latest Ceton drivers so all 8 tuners will be enabled

Thanks for the feedback, but the Ceton application isn't really a task , so I'm inclined to say extras is a more appropriate place for it. I'll mention it, but I don't think it'll give moved at this point in time.

Thanks for replying, it was worth a shot! :)

Jeff

Well I recieved the 2nd card & installed it. Upon boot up, it detected the 2nd card & said I had to rerun the tv setup. Called the cable co & gave them the #'s & after 5 minutes or so was back up & running.

You should contact Ceton, who will tell you to push a log for them to analyze and help you.

I don't have multiple ceton cards, but there are a few general principles of cabling that are important to know.

1) To maintain the highest signal strength as possible, you will want to split your signal as few times as possible. Each time you split your signal, you lost signal strength.
2) To...

That message means the InfiniTV has most likely crashed and rebooted itself.

The message could also indicate that your CableCard has crashed. What brand of CableCard are you using?

Dropping when using bridging is often the result of a buggy/poor quality NIC being bridged with. That said, the newer drivers attempt to be more resilient against NIC driver issues.
I wasn't very detailed in my description of the problem because I wanted to be brief. The problem continued after I...

crappy Scientific Atlanta 8300 box

But you repeat yourself.

I think the xbox has a larger revenue model

does anyone know if it requires a separate power source or is power supplied via the usb connection?

I use the internal card at the moment... which leads to one more thought: it would be nice to see if they updated the components on the usb version, just to see if they reduced the thermal output....

Glad to hear you've got it sorted out

I think the OP is referring to when the cards are in bridged mode. Therefore, each card should automatically receive its own IP address on the LAN.

Yup... I was troubleshooting a projector not producing a picture with my sister yesterday. Going through all these complicated projector menu settings and weird resolutions. Then I asked her to send me a picture of the cable she was using... it was the broken cable we already troubleshooted two...

You really shouldn't have to do anything. I re-run TV setup on a daily basis (always testing things) and haven't blown away my recording schedule yet. That said, I suppose it's plausible it could happen.

It usually takes a couple of days for the change to show up in WMC.

It is my understanding that the InfiniTV comes with an amplifier onboard to compensate for the signal loss associated with splitting the signal 4 ways.
That is correct

I don't remember offhand if Suddenlink uses Motorola or Cisco CableCARDs - if it's Motorola, double-check the DATA # with what the rep has. Certain commands will cause the card to generate a new DATA #.
Beyond that, I'd recommend opening a support ticket with Ceton.

I am interested in networking another PC to the host PC (ceton), can someone elaborate on setting up the network bridge? Sorry if it's a stupid ?, my talents w networking are limited.
Thanks!

Just wanted to say thanks to erkotz. My ceton ticket has now been closed and both my tuning adapters are properly linking in after multiple restarts!! Version 1.0.3.2.
Glad to hear it's working for you now 8-)

Nice!

Now if only they could start to manufacture the InfiniTV6 PCIe. I could do with 2 more tuners, and have no room for another InfiniTV4.

Jeremy! Hear my calls!!!!

What, you mean you don't all have 6-tuner InfiniTV's cards yet? :twisted:

+1, had similar comments in another thread.

20 Mbps = 2.5 MB/s.
2.5 MB/s * 6 = 15 MB/s.

thanks so much for the quick reply. I don't have any recordings that are currently copy protected, so I should be good to go.

Thanks!

Just wanted to give an update:

Asked (and got) my 2nd Ceton added to the beta. The latest beta fw & drivers added extra fixes specifically for this problem.

After having it installed for almost two weeks now, I haven't lost a TA lock on the correct Tuner one time. Very happy.

Thanks again! And I gotta say...this new forum is WAY better than what Microsoft did to the old site. I'm glad this exists.

As a long time user of Media Center, we've gone through the transition from analog, clearQAM to CableCard with Comcast.

Comcast's plan is to stop broadcasting the analog channels, which is probably going to be true for all (or most) cable companies. In our area, Comcast is slowly turning off the...

I actually ended up drilling a 5 hole in the back of the entertaintment center with a hole saw (1 MDF cabinet) and mounted a 120 mm fan exhausting warm air out of the entertainment center.

The case it self has a good air flow, but when enclosed in a poorly ventilated space it can only do so much,...

Yeah, I'm running HDMI from Computer to Onkyo A/V switcher. Thats a good idea, I never thought of perhaps running Video directly to tv, and audio optical to the AV receiver.. Something to try. As of right now, it seems my computer/tv times out after a while, even tho I set computer monitor to...

is a two way amp required if you want to amplify your signl with a cablecard or will a standard one way amp work?

He didn't hook it up to an amp per se, supposedly just a splittler designed for Cablecards. I would think an amp might not be best to use unless you have a lot of line splits.

Thanks for the reply makryger. Based on what you are saying this install should be very similiar to my COX install. I currently have 2 CISCO TAs running on my setup at home. With COX it also required a truck roll, but the guys that came out had already setup other 7MC systems before so it was not...