New to Media Center, is this behavior normal?

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New to Media Center, is this behavior normal?

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Post by EJG924 » Fri May 09, 2014 8:02 pm

Dual tuner (HDHR Plus)

When a scheduled recording begins while watching Live TV on a different channel, WMC changes to the recording channel without any warning. Is this behavior normal for WMC?

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Post by mark1234 » Fri May 09, 2014 9:58 pm

If you've a tuner not being used then Media Centre should just silently use that. If both tuners are in use, with one showing live TV, then it should pop up a prompt saying it's going to change channel. Unless you press Cancel at that stage, it will take over the tuner showing live TV for the recording.
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Post by barnabas1969 » Fri May 09, 2014 10:29 pm

Mark is correct. Additionally, if you are watching the same channel that will be recorded... but you are not watching "live", Media Center will jerk forward to the "live" point.

For example, if you were watching channel 6 live... and you paused it for a while (or used the rewind function) so that you are watching what happened on channel 6 several seconds/minutes in the past... and a recording is scheduled to begin on channel 6... then it will suddenly "jerk forward" to the current time, on the TV which is currently viewing channel 6, when that recording begins.

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Post by richard1980 » Fri May 09, 2014 11:40 pm

What if WMC tries to tune using a free tuner, but fails...which causes the tune request to roll over to the other tuner (the one playing live TV)...does WMC still show a pop-up?

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Post by barnabas1969 » Fri May 09, 2014 11:53 pm

richard1980 wrote:What if WMC tries to tune using a free tuner, but fails...which causes the tune request to roll over to the other tuner (the one playing live TV)...does WMC still show a pop-up?
Not sure. Have you tried this?

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Post by EJG924 » Sat May 10, 2014 4:52 am

Thanks everyone who responded. I've been having inconsistent problems with my system and I asked this question because this didn't seem like a standard DVR behavior and Google searches weren't yielding anything. I have a Haswell i5 Intel NUC (D54250WYKH1) with HD5000 graphics, Win 7 pro, and HDHR Plus. When this "weird behavior" happens, "411 info" shows that only one tuner is being utilized before (while watching Live TV on a different channel) and after the channel is changed to the recording channel. No on-screen warnings are given.
richard1980 wrote:What if WMC tries to tune using a free tuner, but fails...which causes the tune request to roll over to the other tuner (the one playing live TV)...does WMC still show a pop-up?
This is a good question. The answer may help me with my problems.

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Post by EJG924 » Sat May 10, 2014 6:10 pm

Any ideas as to why Media Center is having trouble starting the second tuner?

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Post by richard1980 » Sun May 11, 2014 4:59 am

barnabas1969 wrote:
richard1980 wrote:What if WMC tries to tune using a free tuner, but fails...which causes the tune request to roll over to the other tuner (the one playing live TV)...does WMC still show a pop-up?
Not sure. Have you tried this?
No...I don't know how to make the HDHRP tuners fail on demand. Any ideas?

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Post by mark1234 » Sun May 11, 2014 8:10 am

barnabas1969 wrote:Additionally, if you are watching the same channel that will be recorded... but you are not watching "live", Media Center will jerk forward to the "live" point.
Yes, I'd forgotten that; That's quite annoying. I've also seen instances where live TV on the PC can be interrupted by an extender without any prompt coming up, but I can't remember the exact circumstances to reproduce this. Not got an extender setup at the moment to test it either.
EJG924 wrote:Any ideas as to why Media Center is having trouble starting the second tuner?
If you look in the recording history it should tell you if it's having issues with the second tuner. Don't think it says what the problem was, but at least you'd know if there was a problem.
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Post by barnabas1969 » Mon May 12, 2014 12:45 am

richard1980 wrote:
barnabas1969 wrote:
richard1980 wrote:What if WMC tries to tune using a free tuner, but fails...which causes the tune request to roll over to the other tuner (the one playing live TV)...does WMC still show a pop-up?
Not sure. Have you tried this?
No...I don't know how to make the HDHRP tuners fail on demand. Any ideas?
I suppose you could drill a hole through a component which serves one of the tuners.

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Post by crawfish » Mon May 12, 2014 3:00 am

EJG924 wrote:Dual tuner (HDHR Plus)

When a scheduled recording begins while watching Live TV on a different channel, WMC changes to the recording channel without any warning. Is this behavior normal for WMC?
Sounds like the problem described in this thread:

WMC7 taking liveTV tuner while free tuner available: SOLVED

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Post by EJG924 » Mon May 26, 2014 5:00 pm

Thank you for posting the link, Crawfish. I tried blocking VCT and unfortunately it didn't work for me. I still had the same problems. I finally hooked up an antenna to the HDHR Plus and everything is working fine. Not a solution but a viable workaround for me. Trying to use clear QAM is just too buggy for my setup.

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