1080 output for TV

[SilverRubicon]

When the echo outputs a television (CBS, NBC, etc) program at 1080, is that interlaced or progressive? Personally, I'd like to see 1080i and have the echo do as little as possible to the feed.

[Sammy2]

Currently it is progressive and it looks fantastic. I don't care what is doing the deinterlacing as long as it looks good.

[JAS]

I too would like to see a 1080i setting output from the echo as 1080p output setting only gives me 720p on my 6 yr old Samsung 72" DLP TV. Right now, 720p doesn't look all that good and gradient colors (shades/ color space) makes certain scenes almost cartoonish (especially dark scenes). And no, I'm not going to replace the TV because of the echo. I'm actually hoping to buy more echo's but this little box has a long way to go still before it can come close to even my old Atom processor based HTPCs.

[Sammy2]

I too would like to see a 1080i setting output from the echo as 1080p output setting only gives me 720p on my 6 yr old Samsung 72" DLP TV. Right now, 720p doesn't look all that good and gradient colors (shades/ color space) makes certain scenes almost cartoonish (especially dark scenes). And no, I'm not going to replace the TV because of the echo. I'm actually hoping to buy more echo's but this little box has a long way to go still before it can come close to even my old Atom processor based HTPCs.

What f/w?

Try the 2013.116.1545 beta and see how that works. The change log states that this issue is the target of this f/w.

[SilverRubicon]

Currently it is progressive and it looks fantastic. I don't care what is doing the deinterlacing as long as it looks good.

Well, if that's true then 'native' isn't really native. I want native output, pure and simple.

[hub1]

How is your picture quality with the current f/w?

[Sammy2]

Currently it is progressive and it looks fantastic. I don't care what is doing the deinterlacing as long as it looks good.

Well, if that's true then 'native' isn't really native. I want native output, pure and simple.

You are technically correct. Native is a work in progress right now. Right now it does switch the frame rate but I'm pretty sure it is still doing progressive but don't have a way to test. My TV reports frame rate but not whether it is interlaced or not. Native output is still under development by ceton. I hear a new alpha is in testing for it and will be in the omega channel by the end of the week.

[hub1]

According to my onkyo avr, 1080 and 720 is output progressive. When set to native, 1080 in 1080p out and 720 in 720p out.

[Sammy2]

According to my onkyo avr, 1080 and 720 is output progressive. When set to native, 1080 in 1080p out and 720 in 720p out.

I can dig into the menus on my Denon to get that information. Have I, you ask? No.

[hub1]

According to my onkyo avr, 1080 and 720 is output progressive. When set to native, 1080 in 1080p out and 720 in 720p out.

I can dig into the menus on my Denon to get that information. Have I, you ask? No.

I just press the display button on my remote and the onscreen overlay gives me input and output info on video and audio.

[Sammy2]

Denon makes you dig for it. They just recently got into the OSD overlay on HDMI. My 889 modle had 480I OSD on analog connectors only with no overlay. It had a better amp section than my 2312ci which has direct lineage to the 889/2309ci series.

[JAS]

Ceton echo -> HDMI -> Onkyo TX-SR803 AVR (HDMI V1.1 HDCP)-> HDMI -> Samsung DLP HL-R7178 TV

According to Onkyo specs, this receiver doesn't do HDMI video upconversion. The DLP TV is 1080i.

So...
480p setting = expanded offset offscreen image (people are very wide)
720p setting = 720p (look normal from what I can tell)
1080p setting = 720p
Native setting = 720p

This receiver as far as I know can't do OSD via HMDI, I typically have to switch to another source. I believe HDMI is just a 2/1 repeater on this receiver.

[SilverRubicon]

This needs to be fixed. Native broadcast television output is 1080i @ 60hz. If 1080i is not supported, then perhaps the name of the video mode needs to be changed from 'native' to 'almost native'.

[Sammy2]

http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/vie ... 655#p41655