Ceton Echo needs MMC for Win10

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Ceton Echo needs MMC for Win10

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Post by Crash2009 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:56 pm

This is what I see on the TV connected to the Ceton Echo extender. When I pick up the phone and go to the Ceton MMC app everything looks normal I can see my movies I can see recorded TV I can see the guide I can see all my channels, everything looks normal. As a matter of fact I can play all those things that I can see on the phones MMC app on the Win10 HTPC. When I tap play to the HTPC the tuner engages and starts playing WMC on the HTPC. When I tap stop the tuner disengages and the live TV stops.

When I try to play to the MCX-1, I can see the light come on on the tuner I checked task manager eh receiver is receiving, wireshark confirms the tuner is sending to the Win10. Unfortunately nothing is being sent to the extender.

What did you guys do when you see this on the TV after installing a Ceton Echo.

I have tried the Win7 version of the MMC for HTPC, The win8 version is the only one that will install. Is there another version for win8? or can the Win7 version be tricked into running on Win8/10. If I only knew how, I would disassemble the software and remove or disable the "check OS" part.
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Post by scyto » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:57 pm

Are you saying you have hacked Windows 10 to run media center and then you wonder why it can't send media streams to an echo?
Or did i miss the scenario here?

(by the way the version of MMC will have no effect on what will or won't stream - it is just a glorified remote control and not partaking in the streaming)

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Post by Crash2009 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:06 pm

Not wondering at all. Looking for a solution.
The fine print in the previous picture, implies that MMC is required to enable/activate a stream to the extender.

Yes hacked 10, injected WMC.

Hacked ehshell, mediacenter.UI, mcx2prov, and ntrights.

Did you Win8.1 guys just give up?

Any ideas on what injection/transplant Win10 needs next?

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Post by mdavej » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:44 am

Crash2009 wrote:Did you Win8.1 guys just give up?

Any ideas on what injection/transplant Win10 needs next?
Echo and MMC worked perfectly fine for me in Win 8.1 out of the box. Since I didn't have to do anything to make it work, I don't know what to tell you. Unfortunately, I don't remember what version of MMC I ran in 8.1 either. Surely someone else out there is still running Echo under 8.1. Maybe ping some of the folks in the "I need a Media Center Key" thread.

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Post by Crash2009 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:38 am

mdavej wrote:
Crash2009 wrote:Did you Win8.1 guys just give up?

Any ideas on what injection/transplant Win10 needs next?
Echo and MMC worked perfectly fine for me in Win 8.1 out of the box. Since I didn't have to do anything to make it work, I don't know what to tell you. Unfortunately, I don't remember what version of MMC I ran in 8.1 either. Surely someone else out there is still running Echo under 8.1. Maybe ping some of the folks in the "I need a Media Center Key" thread.
I thought 3rd party extenders were disabled by the O/S in 8.1

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Post by mdavej » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:58 pm

Echo works fine in 8.1 via MMC. It's just so clunky to use via the app alone, and you have no on-screen GUI that we just say it doesn't work. But it actually does.

Other extenders have no MMC app to help them, so they don't work at all. Xbox still works fine of course.

With used Xboxes running around $25, that's probably your best bet at this point. Sell one Echo and buy 3 or 4 of them with the profit.

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Post by mdavej » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:31 pm

Crash, have you tried this version:

http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/vie ... 494#p63494

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Post by Crash2009 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:19 pm

mdavej wrote:Crash, have you tried this version:

http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/vie ... 494#p63494
That is the one I am running w8_13_12_07_1361 The newer one, w8_13_12_07_1361, throws the Otay error.

I gotta go to an appointment, I'll answer your other post in a couple hours.

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Post by Crash2009 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:19 pm

I got that backwards, (the one you suggested) ceton_my_media_center_setup_w8_13_10_28_1276 throws the Otay Error

http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/vie ... 92#p103092

This one (the newer version) (gets me to the Get MMC Splash Screen) ceton_my_media_center_setup_w8_13_12_07_1361 The splash screen is displayed on the HDMI TV connected to the Echo, and that is where the process stops.

http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/vie ... 87#p102887

It appears to me that....the negotiation between Win10/WMC and Echo is incomplete, and unable to start sending the stream, even though Win10/WMC was able to send the Splash Screen in the previous negotiation step.

Do you think it's worth trying the MMC App for Windows 8.1? I'm talking about the app that installs on a Win8.1 PC, that is supposed to control WMC and its extenders.
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Post by scyto » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:40 pm

The app has nothing to do with configuring the echo. It's just a remote control that will start playback. If that isn't working you probably want to revert back to 8.1. - I have no plans to upgrade from 8.1 (every thing else I one runs win10 insider fast ring). Hacking win10 to try and make WMC work is cool, but likely path to pain given rate of change to win10.

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