Intel HD4000 & TrueHD

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Post by richard1980 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:44 am

If you are so certain that the uncompressed bit rate varies from color model to color model when color depth (aka bit depth) remains constant, then you should be able to back up your position with a technical explanation. When you post a valid technical explanation, I will concede. And no, a valid technical explanation is not a link to a bitrate calculator. A valid technical explanation should explain how and why the uncompressed bitrate changes.

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Post by barnabas1969 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:06 pm

Here's a link to a good discussion of how to calculate the bit rate over an HDMI cable:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/996218/how-to ... -bandwidth

Now, back to the OP's question. bigsid05, are you still here? Where were we? I think you ordered an HDMI Detective. Did you get it? Does it work?

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Post by bigsid05 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:24 pm

Haha - thanks barnabas. I've had an HDMI Detective and no it doesn't make a difference.

Also tried updating the drivers to the latest version released earlier this month, that made no difference either.

I may start using this system for some light gaming so I may just upgrade to a GTX 600-series card and call it a day.
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Post by barnabas1969 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:41 pm

I don't know what else to suggest.

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Post by bigsid05 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:58 pm

Yep - no idea what else to try either :/

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Post by STC » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:50 pm

Yeah bite the bullet and purchase a graphics card :(
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Post by gabrielcab » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:34 pm

I have a similar setup as the OP with the same error. I more or less I partially "fix" it by plug the HDMI cable into the LG TV HDMI input #3. Don't know why but if I plug my Yamaha AVR into the LG HDMI input #1 #2, my computer sees the LG TV in the audio control panel instead of the AVR and I cannot bitstream, but when I plug the AVR into the HDMI input #3 my computer sees my AVR instead of the LG TV and i'm able to bitstream, but, I got problems with video in MCE and TMT5 where the screens got black and I have to power off/on the TV to get the image back.

Changing my video card or even computer didn't fix my problem, only changing the HDMI input did.

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Post by bigsid05 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:43 pm

Interesting, and somewhat random, fix. Your PC shows 'LG XXXX' as the output when connected to the other HDMI inputs? I'll try it, worth a shot - thanks for posting!

What model LG TV do you have?

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Post by gabrielcab » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:19 am

bigsid05 wrote:Interesting, and somewhat random, fix. Your PC shows 'LG XXXX' as the output when connected to the other HDMI inputs? I'll try it, worth a shot - thanks for posting!

What model LG TV do you have?
60PK750-UA is my LG TV.

When I connect my AVR to the HDMI1/HDMI2 my playback devices shows "LG TV-#", and when I change the HDMI input to #3 it shows my AVR model with all the bitstreaming options.

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Post by bigsid05 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:30 am

Gave it a try, unfortunately it didn't make any difference for me. My HTPC always showed my AVR as the playback device though.

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Post by blushrts » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:09 pm

Have you loaded the Intel MEI (management engine interface) driver? I think I remember reading Intel onboard video wouldn't bitstream high definition formats without it.

Nevermind, I didn't read the first post very well.

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Post by bigsid05 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:18 pm

Yup, did try removing/reinstalling MEI (as well as the other drivers) multiple times. No luck there.

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Post by HTBruceM » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:01 am

Hey I realize this is a really old post, but did the OP ever check this posting?
http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/vie ... 039#p19039

It suggests that your Onkyo is passing the TV's supported formats back to the Intel HD4000.
I think there is a setting in the Onkyo that will prevent this by turning off ARC, HDMI-CEC, and the TV-AUDIO selection.

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Post by adam1991 » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:18 am

ronvp wrote:I am just flabbergasted that you guys are trying to prove that it is OK to use low speed cables for High Speed applications.
You are the principal engineer for Denon?

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"Additionally, signal directional markings are provided for optimum signal transfer." That will absolutely be my favorite, forever.

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Post by bigsid05 » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:04 am

HTBruceM wrote:Hey I realize this is a really old post, but did the OP ever check this posting?
http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/vie ... 039#p19039

It suggests that your Onkyo is passing the TV's supported formats back to the Intel HD4000.
I think there is a setting in the Onkyo that will prevent this by turning off ARC, HDMI-CEC, and the TV-AUDIO selection.
I did see that post, unfortunately it didn't help :(.

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Post by richard1980 » Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:38 pm

adam1991 wrote:"Additionally, signal directional markings are provided for optimum signal transfer."
:lol:

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Post by HTBruceM » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:12 pm

bigsid05 wrote:
HTBruceM wrote:Hey I realize this is a really old post, but did the OP ever check this posting?
http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/vie ... 039#p19039

It suggests that your Onkyo is passing the TV's supported formats back to the Intel HD4000.
I think there is a setting in the Onkyo that will prevent this by turning off ARC, HDMI-CEC, and the TV-AUDIO selection.
I did see that post, unfortunately it didn't help :(.
I guess the Geffen gizmo should have overridden the dynamic E-EDID handshake, right?

From what I understand, the Moninfo app dives directly into the EDID data of the display device (Onkyo in your case). But this might not be the same EDID data that is passed along to the Intel graphics controller during the HDMI handshake between PC and Onkyo when the LG TV is connected to the monitor OUT of the Onkyo.

Are you still willing to experiment? What if you connect a different monitor (like a PC monitor) directly to the PC using some other output type (DVI or VGA). Completely physically DISCONNECT the TV from the Onkyo (including any SPDIF connections). However, keep the HDMI connection from the PC to the Onkyo and make sure you set the Onkyo as the default audio device. Then reboot the PC & power cycle the Onkyo and see if you get a different set of capabilities showing up. If you now get TrueHD showing up, that would prove that somehow, the Onkyo was passing along the TV's supported formats when it was connected, and the Geffen picked up on it too.

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Post by Markwinstanley » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:09 am

Have you try using k lite on pc?

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Post by bigsid05 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:56 am

I have since switched to running a 660ti in the htpc (since I do some gaming with it as well) so I haven't had any issues.

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