Sorry, but I don't have time to read the whole complaint and counter-suit. Where do you see that they were working on Media Center with CableCARD and Wireless streaming? From what I've read, this was about wireless audio... not video, and not CableCARD. Please elaborate.makryger wrote:Well, I do certainly like the concept they were working on- a new media center with cablecard and wireless streaming capability for a whole-home distribution. Too bad it degenerated into a lawsuit, though. It shows that Ceton isn't giving up on the Media Center concept yet (even if media center is slowly decaying).
Ceton vs. Gibson Lawsuit
-
- Posts: 5738
- Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:23 pm
- Location: Titusville, Florida, USA
- HTPC Specs:
- makryger
- Posts: 2132
- Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:01 pm
- Location: Illinois
- HTPC Specs:
The appendices aren't particularly detailed, but they do have a number of diagrams- one mock-up of a device with a cablecard slot, and various different home-diagrams that suggest wireless connections. I'm kind of making some inferences from those details, though it could certainly be different.barnabas1969 wrote:Sorry, but I don't have time to read the whole complaint and counter-suit. Where do you see that they were working on Media Center with CableCARD and Wireless streaming? From what I've read, this was about wireless audio... not video, and not CableCARD. Please elaborate.makryger wrote:Well, I do certainly like the concept they were working on- a new media center with cablecard and wireless streaming capability for a whole-home distribution. Too bad it degenerated into a lawsuit, though. It shows that Ceton isn't giving up on the Media Center concept yet (even if media center is slowly decaying).
My Channel Logos XL: Get your Guide looking good! ~~~~ TunerSalad: Increase the 4-tuner limit in 7MC
-
- Posts: 138
- Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:49 am
- Location: West Columbia, SC
- HTPC Specs:
Actually the SOW was quite detailed on what Ceton was proposing to produce for Gibson. It definitely included Cablecard and a DVR; this was proposed in what they called The Advanced Media Hub and is centered around the Intel Berryville SoC processor. The proposed hub also uses WiFi and WiSA technology for wireless communication to streaming media clients and audio to speakers. I hope this eventually gets produced...very cool.makryger wrote:The appendices aren't particularly detailed, but they do have a number of diagrams- one mock-up of a device with a cablecard slot, and various different home-diagrams that suggest wireless connections. I'm kind of making some inferences from those details, though it could certainly be different.barnabas1969 wrote:Sorry, but I don't have time to read the whole complaint and counter-suit. Where do you see that they were working on Media Center with CableCARD and Wireless streaming? From what I've read, this was about wireless audio... not video, and not CableCARD. Please elaborate.makryger wrote:Well, I do certainly like the concept they were working on- a new media center with cablecard and wireless streaming capability for a whole-home distribution. Too bad it degenerated into a lawsuit, though. It shows that Ceton isn't giving up on the Media Center concept yet (even if media center is slowly decaying).
-
- Posts: 102
- Joined: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:31 pm
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
I just checked it out and I also hope that it gets produced. I now can see why the Android update for the echo went away. Ceton was moving that update into this project. All and all if it would have been made it was going to be the Q and the echo like Ceton envisioned with some nice wireless speakers which I am all for. I read the example of the search given in the document and it was the exact same example that Ceton did for the Q at CES 2 years ago. I hope it all works out for Ceton.
-
- Posts: 495
- Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:35 am
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
Interesting! Although not holding my breath... but definitely curious now...Just13d wrote:I just checked it out and I also hope that it gets produced. I now can see why the Android update for the echo went away. Ceton was moving that update into this project. All and all if it would have been made it was going to be the Q and the echo like Ceton envisioned with some nice wireless speakers which I am all for. I read the example of the search given in the document and it was the exact same example that Ceton did for the Q at CES 2 years ago. I hope it all works out for Ceton.
-
- Posts: 696
- Joined: Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:29 pm
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
I wonder how many guys who used to post here and have since vanished once the echo lost the android support worked or were associated with Gibson in some way? I wonder if the Gibson guys were the ones who got to BETA test! Am I going out too far on this?
- makryger
- Posts: 2132
- Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:01 pm
- Location: Illinois
- HTPC Specs:
Yes.IownFIVEechos wrote: Am I going out too far on this?
My Channel Logos XL: Get your Guide looking good! ~~~~ TunerSalad: Increase the 4-tuner limit in 7MC
-
- Posts: 138
- Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:49 am
- Location: West Columbia, SC
- HTPC Specs:
One thing's for sure; you have an active imagination.IownFIVEechos wrote:I wonder how many guys who used to post here and have since vanished once the echo lost the android support worked or were associated with Gibson in some way? I wonder if the Gibson guys were the ones who got to BETA test! Am I going out too far on this?
-
- Posts: 10
- Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:14 am
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
I'm chuckling at all the grief over echo. Why would ceton continue investing in media center at all? It's dead. The people who built it have moved on. ROFL.
That said, grabbing the popcorn. I think that ceton was foolish to do any work without a real contract.
That said, grabbing the popcorn. I think that ceton was foolish to do any work without a real contract.
(former) test lead - Media Center A/V Pipeline
Std Disclaimer. No warranties...blah blah
Std Disclaimer. No warranties...blah blah
- STC
- Posts: 6808
- Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:58 pm
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
/Split Topic: For discussion about the future of Media Center please visit:
Is Media Center Dead?
Is Media Center Dead?
By the Community, for the Community. 100% Commercial Free.
Want decent guide data back? Check out EPG123
Want decent guide data back? Check out EPG123
-
- Posts: 70
- Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:21 pm
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
Not that it really matters, but what's going on with this lawsuit? Has there been any news?
-
- Posts: 1708
- Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:35 pm
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
Inquiring minds want to know.. well mine anyhow!reggie14 wrote:Not that it really matters, but what's going on with this lawsuit? Has there been any news?
-
- Posts: 724
- Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:21 pm
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
You can gleam a little bit from the document titles http://www.lawsuitdata.com/lawsuit-data ... documents/
-
- Posts: 70
- Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:21 pm
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
Out of curiosity, did anyone hang on to the PDF of Gibson's complaint? It was available online at one point, but after the Tennessean updated their website it got rid of the link to it. I can't find it anywhere now, other than by paying $12 for it off the website RyC found. I believe (most) court documents are public records, so it should be legal to redistribute them.
RyC's link is interesting in that it shows that there's been a slow, but constant, stream of court filings. The lawsuit appears to be continuing to move forward.
RyC's link is interesting in that it shows that there's been a slow, but constant, stream of court filings. The lawsuit appears to be continuing to move forward.
-
- Posts: 1708
- Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:35 pm
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
While the court documents are public record unless they are sealed by court order for some legal reason (minor offender for example) they don't have to be free as there are hard costs to storing and retrieving documents. The courts have been charging for access to these records around here for quite some time. It may well be that the linked site above is merely a third party contracted by this particular court to handle document storage and retrieval.
-
- Posts: 70
- Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:21 pm
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
Sure, the court (and other local/state/federal offices) can charge people fees to find and copy public records. But, the records themselves are not protected by copyright, and can be reproduced and redistributed without permission. RECAP is an academic project based on that.Sammy2 wrote:While the court documents are public record unless they are sealed by court order for some legal reason (minor offender for example) they don't have to be free as there are hard costs to storing and retrieving documents. The courts have been charging for access to these records around here for quite some time. It may well be that the linked site above is merely a third party contracted by this particular court to handle document storage and retrieval.
I'm pretty sure that LawsuitData.com site just crawls PACER (and other data sources), indexes what is available, and buys them from the source when a document is requested. Then, if someone else later comes along and asks for the same thing they can just sell them the version they already have. I highly doubt they have any arrangement with the court. The court has their own page, but it requires a PACER login.
-
- Posts: 180
- Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:26 pm
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
I have a pacer login through my work and can get the pleadings if anyone is really interested.
-
- Posts: 724
- Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:21 pm
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
A conclusion to this case, through a little bit of Google searching, I found out the case was dismissed on 8/15/16 with this judgement:
ORDER: Judgment is hereby entered in favor of Plaintiff, Gibson Brands, Inc., and against Defendant, Ceton Corp, in the amount of $953,334.43. Defendant's counterclaims are dismissed with prejudice. Each party shall bear its own costs and fees. Entry of this order shall constitute the final judgment in the case. Signed by District Judge Waverly D. Crenshaw, Jr on 8/15/2016. (jw)
ORDER: Judgment is hereby entered in favor of Plaintiff, Gibson Brands, Inc., and against Defendant, Ceton Corp, in the amount of $953,334.43. Defendant's counterclaims are dismissed with prejudice. Each party shall bear its own costs and fees. Entry of this order shall constitute the final judgment in the case. Signed by District Judge Waverly D. Crenshaw, Jr on 8/15/2016. (jw)
- Scallica
- Posts: 2799
- Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:09 pm
- Location: USA!
- HTPC Specs:
RyC wrote: ORDER: Judgment is hereby entered in favor of Plaintiff, Gibson Brands, Inc., and against Defendant, Ceton Corp, in the amount of $953,334.43.
HTPC Enthusiast / Forum Moderator - TGB.tv Code of Conduct
-
- Posts: 2893
- Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:31 pm
- Location:
- HTPC Specs:
that's what Gibson said--
--because they asked for $12 mil.
--because they asked for $12 mil.